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Levitate
09-24-2008, 03:36 AM
Hey just wondering what archers turn out late game?
Damage wise vs other classes are they better or weaker?
In PvP can they take down every other class or..?
Do they have a peak level and then go downhill from here?
Thanks.. :)

alanr342
09-29-2008, 12:01 AM
I heard that archers are good but they reach their peak around 89 and just start to get worse
while wizards get unbelieably good at later levels.

Gladiat
10-03-2008, 03:42 AM
Hey just wondering what archers turn out late game?
Damage wise vs other classes are they better or weaker?
In PvP can they take down every other class or..?
Do they have a peak level and then go downhill from here?
Thanks.. :)

Um.. Late game they become fastest levelers.

They are about the same with Venomancers at start, but at higher levels they are easily the quickest levelers.

Damage wise, I'd say 2nd highest damage because of their crit rates. You'll most likely have 15%+ crit at level 70+, so you'll be doing double damage very often. Only class that does more overall is mage.

In PvP, they are really useful, since they have some of the longest range, and crit rates really help. But if a tanker gets close to you, you're done for.

In PvE, they are very effective. High damage, double damage from crit rates, and longest range, so they can take down almost enemy. Only problem is if someone gets close to you because you do about half damage, and crits make you normal damage.

Overall, they are one of the best party classes, since they are the 2nd highest damagers, but they can't do close combat that well unless you have a decent level lightning strike or winged pledge.

Biggest con about them: Their equipment costs the most. Arrows are cheap at first, but at high levels they cost a lot. Their physical defense isn't that good, so physical attacks do quite a bit of damage on them.


My few cents on archers. Peak level is about level 8X to 9X before other characters outstrip them.

Hell Ice
10-13-2008, 02:57 PM
I have to disagree with most of the late levels mentioned about archers starting to get real useless when it comes to lv90+.

By taking into account of all aspects of Perfect World, Archers by far are much more effective in PK than most of the other classes.

Often people mention that Magic Users later in the game gets very strong, especially Wizard with uber damages etc. Lets see how archers fare after lv90.

Leveling, still fast. Archers at this level only need MP Pots to level. Assuming moderate lag, and a lv90 HH crossbow +5 with maxed skills lv10 not sublime or diablotic skills an archer can virtually kill any normal mob without even being hit once later in the game. This is the reason why most archers began to level themselves without party at this stage because they get more experience solo than party leveling. Again this is an agility archer build so the critical rate is approx 22-25% depending on your eq and cultivation. Expecting 350 agi minimum at lv90.

PK:
Against Physical Defense Class:
Although equipped with only 3-4 effective magic skills archers can kill these classes faster than you expect. When against Warriors all you need to do is to keep a distance with him to prevent stunning. These can be done by halting, stunning etc. -hp skill for 30 seconds and thunder away.
halt skill --> -metal elec skill --> normal elec skill --> status ailment prevention skill(lv59 skill) --> heavy elec skill --> stun skill --> repeat elec skill routine.
Most of the time Warriors are dead before you can use the heavy elec skill. You will need to use shield skills as well depending on situations. This is tested and proven with a lv91 sublime archer PKing a lv99 Warrior at territorial war.

Against WB its easier. Force tiger to use its 9/10 damage reduction skill first. Avoid direct contact with him until the skill effect expires, then stun/halt, -max hp, 3 elec skills. If tiger has hieros it should have been refreshed by now if there's a critical hit among the elec skills If it still has more than 50% HP use fast normal skills like double shot etc to let the hiero refresh. Next 10 seconds stun/halt 3 elecs. not dead use slow skill and run. Most of the time you will not need to run because the tiger's dead if there's a critical hit among the elecs. These are all based on maxed skills.

Against Magic Users:
WF. Run if there's a phoenix around. You will have no chance unless you backstab. If there's no phoenix, stun and use the charge skill learned at lv1. stun = 3 secs. charge = 3.2 seconds. if the charge skill is a critical the WF is dead without even having the need to refresh its hieros. If its not the case then you always have the option to use status prevention skill and continue toying with the WF. Note that by keeping the WF busy it will not have the time to summon its pet or use long casting skills unless it takes the no casting delay med.

Against Healers: Same as above.

Against Wizard: Note that wizard has a skill that can move immediately beside you. This is where the shield comes in handy. Most of the time same as above.

Therefore, Archers are not weak later, but got stronger instead. the new lv100 skills also boosted its ability to continue dealing 300% weapon damage all the time. Cheers.:p

jaystreetz
11-15-2008, 12:33 AM
Wow, I clearly choose the right class as my first char. But I alwayz had a thing for archerz in any RPG I play. I juzt had some doubts at first because i rarely ever see any archerz in PWI. :)

Swore
11-16-2008, 08:58 AM
Wow, I clearly choose the right class as my first char. But I alwayz had a thing for archerz in any RPG I play. I juzt had some doubts at first because i rarely ever see any archerz in PWI. :)

Haha, in PW-MY Delphi. EAs are the most common class lol. :p

jaystreetz
11-16-2008, 09:05 AM
Haha, in PW-MY Delphi. EAs are the most common class lol. :p

oh i wouldnt kno that i juzt started playin thiz game like a month ago and i love it:) personally i prefer EAs over any other class.

Swore
11-17-2008, 02:12 PM
I heard that archers are good but they reach their peak around 89 and just start to get worse
while wizards get unbelieably good at later levels.

Actually u r wrong. EA is the best when around lvl70 however when nearer to lvl90, all class begins to even up. :p

Farewell
11-18-2008, 12:32 AM
EA pked n duel hard especially, 70~80lvl they killed me fast
=D haha although i only fought EA thrice

DarkSniper
12-18-2008, 03:27 AM
I like being an EA, only problem I have is that I never seem to have enough MP. Of course if I actually went out and bought MP pots then that wouldn't be a problem.

Hell Ice
12-18-2008, 02:57 PM
I like being an EA, only problem I have is that I never seem to have enough MP. Of course if I actually went out and bought MP pots then that wouldn't be a problem.

This problem will mostly appear when you are at low-mid level. When you hit lv60+ you will be able to regen MP using shields. i would suggest hieros though if you are a PvP lover and enjoyed TW.